Good to here things are starting to come together with work.

Basically yes, I think at the moment we can all start to get some content together. I think around about January we all seem to have lots of time off, so if we have a few videos made each and a plan for the layour of the site, I think we should be able to get something out there by the end of January.

I still am getting casual work regularly, I am also spending every other minute fixing my own game up.... could be a good concept for a video :)

Hi Guys,

I have just finished the two busiest months of my working life. Thanks for the economic stimulus package Mr Rudd, the money was nice, but 2 months of no sleep was a tad hard to swallow.

Anyways, I am now still pretty busy trying to catch up on other work which had to take a back seat. BUT, its getting close to a more normal life again. I now have 4 x 40 minutes videos which provide enough interesting spots to make a descent video. I have been recording every night but without commentary. So next step is to get some commentary into those and they will be good to go.

I'm going to do a NL5 vid for the Forum this weekend so it will be a good practice at final production.

Pocket Jokers rocks for a name

So I take it we now spend a few months compiling loads of content ready for a launch early next year?

Lock it in Eddy?

David is the only one that is half a chance at getting my reference in the title.... but....

I just tried putting pocket jokers in as a URL and no one has that domain name.

I think this would be an awesome name guys, Dan (Raz) , myself are happy to have it, David and Ed were the ones who suggested it, I am assuming Marty doesn't really mind what the name is, as long as it's not "pornopoker" or something that will tie his name to a possibly unscrupulous website domain. That leaves Richard, but his post seemed to indivate he is happy with whatever we come up with.

So I am laying it out.... unless any of you guys have an objection, "PocketJokers" is going to be our site's name. Agree?

Now onto other things. I am now finished with my internship. I have 2 weeks of holidays now, then for 10 weeks after that I have casual work ... maybe 3 days a week for the rest of the year. Also I have 6 weeks off after that. Basically I have more time on my hands now up until February when I am more than likely have a good ol' 9-5er.

Which means I should be able to prepare lots of content for the site. Most will be about Cash games, theory plus live play. Also some more peripheral topics, but I might wait and see what Richard has to offer as it might be similiar to what he is preparing.... more on that later.

I am growing more and more excited about this guys, I know we are all busy but I hope we can produce something.

Summary
- PocketJokers is our name (unless someone has a good reason why it shouldn't)
- Content is on its way

Name

Pocket Jokers gets a +1 from me aswell

I like PoketJokers a lot.... I vote 1

Me and David have been thinking about names.

How about

PocketJokers.com

or

PocketJokersClub.com

Seems like a good poker related name with a bit of humour. Also graphics would be nice with this.

OMG how did I not think of this earlier

About 3 months or so ago, I msn'ed David telling him I have come up with the most ingenious name for a poker book ever created by a human being. Ok so I am talking it up a bit but I think it could have potential........

"Living on the edge"

yes? no? FU its awesome

As for pokervideoing.....

Nona made this tutorial for making your videos using CamStudio ... link not working....

Try this

Then scroll to the bottom, the username and password are..... is this page private???? Well the username IS the password and the username is the "organ of that gets damaged from having too many beers" you have to guess it, starts with l.....

Well I made 2 videos over the weekend, and both of them pretty much sucked. The first one had live commentary, but I intended to play 2 tables of NL10 and didn't realise till a too late one of them was NL5 (who knew you can buy into NL5 for $10?) So that oversight resulted in some pretty daft comments. I tried dubbing over the audo, but retrospective commentary is harder than it looks.

Aside from the commentary F up that video had loads of cool spots and interesting hands.

The second video was great commentary but pretty much as boring as bat $hit as far as content and interesting hands go.

Post production is taking my forever because I basically have no clue how to use Camtasia.

If anyone else is sharing this last problem, do you reckon one of us who does have a clue could hook the rest of us up with an ABC, easy to follow, don't have to read 10,000 pages instructional guide?

Names: (ok, JJ did suggest including the lame)

Stack-man

Superior System

Holdem my nuts

fish and chips

poker fortress

Poker crypt

Value town

Poker orifice

eat chips

Jack King Off

Poke her with this (or poker with this)

Fine edge

Inside edge

Fat edge

Sick mix poker

Pocket Zeros

Pennies and Dimes

Smoke and Mirrors

Donk hospital

Donk bane

poker parlance

holdem my hand

portent for profit

profit portal

Redonkulous

soft donkey to hard ass

Totalitarian Poker Regime

The pajama life

OK, that's about it for me

Creating some content

I'll be making some videos on SNGs from the $3 regular games, $6 turbos, $10 regulars and $16 turbos. I'll probably also make a classrom type session with SNGEGT.

For some reason I am visualising a set of scales....

woops

Hey guys, sorry been a bit busy lately, working 40hours + a week, only getting paid for 20 of those hours lol... things you have to do for uni..... anyway...

I was going to post a similar post to David about getting some direction going. I am also happy to let Ed take the role of director and basically tell us what to do etc.

This is how I perceive what we have going at the moment.

• All of us can create video content on poker right now.
• Marty can whip up a site or structure to a web page that the content can go on. And Marty can do this with not too much effort, as long as he has everything he needs to make the site provided (content, Title, domain name, logo, structure to web page etc).
• We need a name.

How about this, I know we don't all visit this page regularly, lets say we deadline the name. In ONE WEEK we are going to decide on the name. A logo can follow and can be named and can be altered at any point etc, but the name needs to be decided and needs to be something we stick to. "... you just watched how to exploit micro stakes, this is JJSquared for ummm errrr see ya" As you can see, even for simple things in video content we need to have a name to refer to.

One week guys. Today is the 24/9/2009 lets say October 1st is the deadline. Within that time, just spew as many names on this page as possible. Even if its the gayest name in the world.

Once that is done, then I think what we should all do is just work on individual content. Lets say we all make 1 or 2 videos and any thing else that might accompany that. Just content. That way we can go to Marty and say, "Look this is what we have, what can you do with this and what else do you need from us to get the site up"

My poker name spew: "Win @ poker" "CrushPoker" "HeroPoker" "Fish in a Barrel" "Enlarge your BankRoll" (lol ok THAT is ridiculous)

I like I have about 2 weeks left of this internship then will have a lot of time. I will probably start to work on making videos and maybe articles that could help fill web space.

GL

Take the lead

I am happy to manage this project. As long as everyone is happy with it.

If you have any name ideas just post them.

Indexpokerclub.com

Index reffering to money markets ect and a proffesional sound.

I think everyone should be allocated areas of expertise. It is pretty obvious what we will be doing. Even if we cannot get Coop to post here. I am sure we can get him to do a few videos even if he does not have a primary contribution.

Assigning early roles

OK, I think we now have everyone except Coop (David).

The wheels seem to be spinning a little bit at the moment, which is probably fine, and probably to be expected.

If we take 3 months to come up with a name then we will take 3 years to come up with the content and the translation is we will end up nowhere.

My suggestion is to assign some rolls / fields of responsibility. I am totally handcuffed to work for the next month or so, and accordingly, I will be of no use to anybody.

Marty has said he will follow which is a darn sight better than "observe" and we are going to absolutely need him down the track. But he is not going to lead

My suggestion is to look to the youth for leadership. Ed... I nominate you and I doubt anyone will object.

If you accept, your first job is to come up with a bunch of names, bringing in all previous suggestions if you like and putting those to the vote.

We can at least get that task done inside of a week or two if you take the bull by the horns.

After that we can start to build some content for internal review and comment. Coop must have a gazillion MTT wins he can provide a video commentary of and the same goes for Raz and SNGs.

I don't think its a good idea to be too selective about topic discrimination at this early stage. For example, anything from Raz would be good. We don't need to say "Raz, you should start with ICM" or any other SNG specialty topic. Whatever Raz wants to do. The aim is to get a bunch of videos ready for launch and then we can start to worry about topics.

As for the cash game grinders, there are a tonne of us. We are going to have to be careful not to completely duplicate content, although differing styles will lead to different takes on similar situations which will all be good.

Whilst I have my own ideas on who could produce great vids on particular content, I think the same "anything goes" rule should apply for cash game content. Lets just get some videos together on whatever we want to cover.

So I don't know how much I really covered in any of that. The main point was to get a leader to take a leadership role. Its Ed's brainchild and I reckon he would have more time than the rest of us to take on the responsibility

Dave.

Finally got here

Hi guys, good to see some discussion going on. As for the name, Red Hot Poker was pretty cool but if its taken we'll have to look elsewhere.

I don't really like the idea of aiming the name towards 'noob' or anything associated with being bad. Mainly because our target audience wants to get better. They want to play like the pros they see on TV so taking a much more professional angle on the name would be better imo. As for suggestions....I suck at that kind of thing. The best I can think of off the top of my head is www.pokerpath.com

Whats our main focus at the moment, is it going to be creating the brand? stockpiling content? I'm really no use on the marketing side but whenever you want some content made up I'm happy to do it.

I will follow.

I suppose I am trying not to take the lead here, as I certainly have enough on my plate right now. On the other hand it doesn't take much to set up a site so I feel I could do the mechanics rather quickly.

I do agree with having a good name and logo to start professional looking anyhow. I can commit to a certain level of contribution, and believe me - I have 1,000s of video hands to discuss. Its a matter of time vs money. Monetization seems to be a challenge here as well as long term commitment from suppliers. If we offered a free membership to start, we would certainly need an affiliate program set up or at least some kind of ADv revenue.

Even though I like Red Hot Poker, the name is taken and I am not sure how it would "fit" with a concept. Since this might be for a small beginner community, why not figure a good name, then just add "club" at the end. PokerMiceClub.com, PokerNoobClub.com, InternetPokerClub.com etc. Just a thought.

I am always busy, so I cant lead this parade, but would surely contribute on a equal level in terms of content and getting early interest.

Red hot poker gets a big thumbs up from me. Loads of good graphics opportunities go with that name.

I agree about the audience. I should have better defined what I meant by noob.

I also particularly like the idea about dual commentary. There are quite a few videos I have seen that do that very well.

Another slightly different angle on that which I saw was done by Todd Arnold and David Eisentein do on RPT. Those two are chalk and cheese as far as style goes. So David made a video and then Todd dubbed other commentary over the top of it. The idea was to show specific spots where TAG and LAG thinking part ways.

Amongst ourselves there is probably not such a huge discrepancy in style [although we all know Richard is kinda tight ;-) ]But even still adding a second layer of audio analysis even if not done concurrently live, might add to the depth of content, since two sets of ideas go into the one video.

As usual, we need advice from Marty about capital and still about other monetisation issues.

Okay I think I am just going to laydown some stuff so we can get off the the ground.

What is going to be our name?

Preferably not intimidating or mathematically based. It needs to be catchy and can shortened.

RedHotPoker - RHP

This kind of name I like.

So we need to get a name.


We need to have a logo. Very simple so we can put it everywhere.

Cards?
Graphs?
Maybe a trident reprensting power and relates to our name (evil lol, but we are taking peoples money) ?


Our market is not actually noobs. Noobs do not know what they are doing in poker. We are not telling people what a pair is. That kind of market is saturated by tosh. We need in depth analysis with short videos but things have to be explained explicitly.


There are multiple ways we could distribute videos.

Emails?
Downloads?


I think content should for the most part be free. We are nobodies (except Marty) so we do not have an image we can use. However Marty is not a well known pro but he got himself out there. I think we should go for Marty's tried and tested method.


Capital

-How much money does the site need invested?
-How do we raise revenue and what could be predicted revenue?
Affliates
Google Adsense
ect


We need content in reserve before we open the site. Atleast 4months worth. This way we will not dry up with content and lose traffic and we have comfortable time to work with.

Marketing - Turtlekinfe is the best way to go as far as I can see and other Marty Smith related stuff.


Plan - Free content to gain traffic and raise revenue from advertising.


We need this stuff laid down A.S.A.P otherwise we are going nowhere.

Lets throw out ideas guys and crack on.

So Ed and I just played our grand final HU for the TI competition, it was really fun! It was best of 7 and it predictably got down to 3-3 with a decider. I lost but we had an awesome time, I rang up Ed on Skype to try and get inside his head a little and we talked about hands back and forth whilst we played eachother.

We talked about some cool concepts about HU play and poker in general plus sweated some rivers.

The end result gave me an idea for this site. Maybe once a month we can run one of these videos where 2 of the coaches (lol coaches) play against eachother with live commentary. It was a but of fun but we also gave our opinions on some poker concepts and we got to talk about how to dissect hands against competent players and what you should consider, there was some great content.

The audio didn't quite grab Ed's voice though, I will work on a solution for that, but I think this would be a really cool thing to incorporate into the site once it is developed.

THankss guys,
JAck

Poker Site

Hi guys. I will just keep this quick and just throw out some of my ideas.

1. We need to have a schedule of when we are going to release videos so that this thing runs smoothly.

2. I think we need to keep this to free content 'at first' because we cannot compete with CR, Stox, PXF and so on.

3. We need classroom and playing videos. I have already started one on beating low stakes 6 max.

4. Keep the videos less than 30 mins unless there is a good reason. Once you get over this time the viewer gets impatient.

5. What is the best way of making money?

So tell us your thoughts guys.

Ed.

OK, well, We seem to be waiting still for Raz and Coop.

In the meantime, I thought I might kick off a few ideas.

Making this a successful project will require I think, agreement about 3 or 4 key points which will set the direction for how things progress.

We need to agree on what is our product, who is our market, what is our financial model, what are our responsibilities and what are our remunerations.

My thoughts on each of those are as follows:

Product

Primarily beginner orientated material which can be accessed for free. I don't think we can expect a paying market and we cannot try to compete with subscription training sites. I think this was also suggested by someone else.

The material would be primarily video, and divided into SNG, MTT, FL Cash, NL Cash and BR Management.

We will need to give further consideration to a mix of classroom type vids and live play type vids

Market

Noobs

Financial Model / monetisation

Can Marty give us a list of options?

Responsibilities

There are 7 of us not including Marty. If we each cut one video a month that would be 84 videos a year. That is tonnes and so I think we could go lower to even 1 per 2 months.

In addition, probably a monthy round table to agree on what areas of the site need work to set the direction for new material. That way future material will be added in a structured rather than ad hoc way.

Remuneration

I am kind of assuming that it is possible to keep track of hits to links within the site. Since hits will most likely generate the overall income stream, dividing that stream proportionately to the number of hits would seem like a good starting point.

The trade off however will be that there will likely be areas which naturally attract less interest. Probably BR Management would be an example. But the site benefits overall by having a thorough and robust range of material rather than just only the sexy stuff. So we will have to give some consideration to that.

Also, Marty, if he is to be the web master (if that's even the correct term) will need to be rewarded for his role. Web site design, expertise with monetisation, an established name to bring instant traffic, and on going management etc are all valuable input which would not be captured by a hits based remuneration system. So Marty probably needs his own unique rewards program.

So I think that's about it for my initial thoughts. Hope that is helpful